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Any Idea what a 1952 Packard in deplorable condition would sell for as is?

I'm restoring my 1950 Packard.  Where can I get some more information?

I have a 1920s Touring car and need top parts to complete.

Do you whether the 1923 (or other model year) Peerless V-8 featured an engine-driven compressor to inflate its tires?

Do you have any information on the Playboy automobile?

I currently own a 1926 Pontiac Landau Coupe. It was given to me completely in
pieces.  Even the engine is torn apart.  I have contacted various restoration
businesses and have been told it would cost $50,000 to restore.   I would
be more than happy to listen to any advice or any information you can give me.

Do you have any info on a 1914 Princess or Perkins Motorcar with a Massnick-Phipps Mfg. Co. Engine?




 Any Idea what a 1952 Packard in deplorable condition would sell for as is?

The general definition for a #6 Parts Car is: May or may not be running, but is weathered, wrecked, and/or stripped to the point of being useful primarily for parts. This is an incomplete or greatly deteriorated, perhaps rusty, vehicle that has value only as a parts donor for other restoration projects.

A 1952 Packard parts car can run from $500. - 700. depending on the model. You might want to check with the AACA / Antique Automobile Club of America at  to find a chapter near you. One of the members would probably be willing to take a closer look and give you a better estimate of the value.  For professional appraisals you can look in Hemmings or Cars & Parts to find an appraiser near you.

 I'm restoring my 1950 Packard.  Where can I get some more information?

Contact:

The Packard Club (Packard Automobile Classics, Inc.
P.O. Box 570709
Dallas, TX  
1-800-527-3452

Packard International Car Club
302 French Street
Santa Clara, CA
(714) 541-8431

Packard International Classics
Alleghaney Packards
P.O. Box 42
Industry, PA  15052-0042
(412) 323-1278

 I have a 1920s Touring car and need top parts to complete.

These people made the top for my 1915 Brass "T" and did nice work:

Carters Cut & Cover Shop
1832 , 832 East 6th Street
Beardstown, IL 62618
(217) 323-1832

Call:
Snyder's Antique Auto Parts, Inc.
12925 Woodworth Road
Springfield, OH 44443-9753
Toll-free 1-888-262-5712
Fax 1-888-262-5713

These are good folks to deal with, and although they are Model "T" Ford
suppliers, they may be able to tell you where you can get your top irons.
Model "T" might work -- doesn't hurt to ask.

You can also join the Willy's Overland, Knight Registry
Write the editor, Chuck Jeanblanc
2133 E. 879 Road
Tonica, IL 61370

This would be a big help for you since you would have free want ads and a
good newsletter.

 Do you whether the 1923 (or other model year) Peerless V-8 featured an engine-driven compressor to inflate its tires?

The engine driven compressor was offered as an extra cost item on larger
cars. We have a 1929 Peerless 6-60 that does not have a compressor.

We have a 1925 Cadillac 7 Passenger Phaeton that does have one (it was also
on the 1924 model). It was used to pressurize the gas tank to push the fuel
to the carburetor. It could also be use in tire repair.

Air compressors were an accessory that cost extra and they are not found on
the average car.

 Do you have any information on the Playboy automobile?

PLAYBOY (1946 - 1951)
Playboy Motor Car Corp., Buffalo, NY
Playboy nearly outlasted the flood of short-lived post-war American makes.  The company struggled valiantly and managed to manufacture 97 examples of this compact three-seater convertible before bankruptcy.  It was driven by a 40bhp 4-cylinder Continental (originally Hercules) L-head engine, had an automatic transmission and a 7 ft. 6in. wheelbase.  Price was $985.

Source:  The New Encyclopedia of Automobiles, 1885 to the Present

 I currently own a 1926 Pontiac Landau Coupe. It was given to me completely in
pieces.  Even the engine is torn apart.  I have contacted various restoration
businesses and have been told it would cost $50,000 to restore.   I would
be more than happy to listen to any advice or any information you can give me.

Time passes and conditions change.  Consider storing the car, if you can.   Who knows but down the road fate may take a hand and you will be able to restore the car. Perseverance and fortitude are required to do it yourself -- a good project.

In the early mid-twenties car companies, especially independents, were trying to expand production. This was the age of the "companion car".   Nash made the Ajax, Chandler made the Cleveland, REO made the Wolverine, G.M. Cadillac had the LaSalle, Buick the Marquette and the companion car for the Oakland was Pontiac.

Oakland was a moderate producer for G.M. Organized around 1906, their production facility was not large enough to produce the new car so Chevrolet got the honors.  The early Pontiacs were trimmed and painted and became very popular.  The body was the same as Chevy but had a 6 cylinder engine, wood spoke wheels and sold very well.

By 1931 GM felt the Pontiac was a better seller and a money maker so they dropped Oakland.  Your car and body style makes it worth restoring.

Join the AACA / Antique Automobile Club of America.  There's probably a chapter near you.  These members will be able to give you advice, encouragement and maybe even a helping hand.  The wealth of knowledge that you can tap into through the AACA and its members will help you to get the most out of one of America's largest hobbies, car collecting and restoration.

 Do you have any info on a 1914 Princess or Perkins Motorcar with a Massnick-Phipps Mfg. Co. Engine?

There was a automobile named Princess, made in the US from 1914 - 1918 by the Princess Motor Car Company of Detroit, Michigan. The original Princess was a light two-seater, costing $475, powered by a 1.6 litre 4-cylinder Farmer engine. It had a Renault-style bonnet, although the radiator was mounted in front of the engine. For 1916 this model was supplemented by a conventional-looking five-seater tourer powered by a 3-litre G.B. & S. engine.

Perkins made engines but there is no record of a Perkins Motor Car. The 1914 Fischer automobile, made by the G.J. Fischer Co. of Detroit, Michigan, was powered by a 4-cylinder, water-cooled 1.6 litre Perkins engine. The 1915 Pontiac, made by the Pontiac Chassis Co. of Pontiac, Michigan, also used a Perkins 4-cylinder engine.

The only reference to the Massnick-Phipps engine which I found told that it was used in the Saginaw automobile. The Saginaw was made in the US from 1914 - 1915 by the Lehr Motor Company of Saginaw, Michigan. In the latter part of 1916 a few 1917-model Saginaws were built. They were equipped with Massnick-Phipps V-8 engines. Before the end of the year the name had been changed to Yale. The Yale was made from 1916 - 1918.            Source:  The New Encyclopedia of Automobiles, 1885 to the Present

Perkins, under contract to the Woods Mobilette Co. of Harvey, IL produced a small four cylinder engine which was foundered by the Massnick-Phipps engine company of Detroit, Mi.  The engines were put into the last years of production by Woods (1916-17).  

The engine is a 22 hp hand cranker which had the option of electric starter.  There is an example of a 1917 Woods in the Henry Ford museum, MI which has that electric started Perkins motor in it.  

That particular engine also had a marine application and static powerplant usage.  Also note the Perkins engines referred to here had PERKINS cast into the crankcase with raised script letters and a Massnick-Phipps brass label riveted to the crankcase.

Thanks to Fred Kroll for this additional information on Perkins

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